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Momtezuma Tuatara
21-07-09, 04:10 PM
on the news tonight that New Zealand vaccination rates are an embarrassment in comparison with Australia, which doesn't have the whooping cough, or measles outbreaks that we do.

:giggle:

:LMAO::LMAO::LMAO::LMAO::LMAO::LMAO::LMAO:

Does he read outside of New Zealand?

http://www.3news.co.nz/Home/Story/tabid/209/articleID/113416/cat/41/Default.aspx#feedback

A leading children’s doctor has labelled New Zealand an embarrassment because of its woeful rates of childhood immunisation.

Dr Johann Morreau’s comment comes as figures show the number of measles cases so far this year is more than seven times the total for the whole of last year.

Danny Jefford will never forget the day his son Jay was vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella.
“He was crying all night,” says Mr Jefford.

“Then bang – he just went into his own little world, and hasn’t really snapped out of it since.”

Soon after, Jaye was diagnosed with autism. The doctors said the two were not connected.

Mr Jefford is not convinced, but he is still a strong believer in vaccination.

He made sure his new baby is up to date with hers, but admits it can be pretty confusing for parents.
“There’s a lot to think about.”

Now parents who do not get their children immunised are being held partly to blame for an outbreak of measles.

There have been 90 cases so far this year – more than seven times the total for last year.

Leading paediatrician Johan Morreau says our immunisation records are embarrassing compared with places like Australia, America and even Western Samoa.

“They don’t see the epidemics that we are now seeing with things like measles and whooping cough – which basically shouldn’t exist in our environment.”

Ninety-five percent of people need to be immunised to stop measles spreading. The current rate is only 86 percent.

“These are serious illnesses, and the potential for their children to become damaged if they don’t immunise them is significant.”

Ivy Ashdown’s mum Kellie says parents who avoid vaccination are being selfish. Ivy is at risk from other children with measles because she is still too young to be vaccinated.

“It’s a little frustrating to think that there is kids out there that haven’t been vaccinated so therefore put my child at risk,” she says.
A small but vocal minority opposed to vaccination say there are safer ways of protecting children.

But Dr Morreau says they are irresponsible in making new parents scared – when they are plan wrong.
3 News

Momtezuma Tuatara
21-07-09, 04:39 PM
I sent TV 3 this:

On your news Johan Morreau stated that Australia doesn't have outbreaks of measles or whooping cough like we do.

So far this year, Australia has had 87 cases of measles, and 16, 018 whooping cough cases.

To confirm this go here

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-pubhlth-strateg-communic-index.htm

and half way down the page, click on

data on Australia's nationally notifiable diseases,

then click on

Notifications of SELECTED DISEASE by Month and Year

Use the scroll down menu and select pertussis and ask for the report, then do the same for measles.

3monkeys
21-07-09, 05:53 PM
I saw that Hilary and I wanted to throw my TV again. 2nd time this week...... what an idiot.

Spy
22-07-09, 11:15 AM
If it makes you feel any better, I am sure I heard an idiot or two here in Australia saying exactly the same thing, in reverse, about NZ. :D

kellarni
22-07-09, 11:57 AM
I cant believe the father with the autistic son going on TV recommending vaccinations. What kind of point were they trying to make there? That serious permanent vaccine damage is better then having measles for a week or so?

Momtezuma Tuatara
22-07-09, 04:19 PM
sort of....! When they interviewed me on the radio, Nikki Turner tried to screw the whole discussion around to the supposed "myth" that MMR is connected with autism, but I wasn't going to let her have a bar of that flub. So to have parents who by their words, poo poo that, is trying to say that there is no serious vaccine damage at all..

3monkeys
22-07-09, 04:29 PM
I hate that whole MMR - autism thing. I just dont get how a parent can present a child who was fine pre MMR and not fine after it and it is just a coincidence. Surely the parents know their children best. As long as there are parents out there who think that their child was MMR damaged I will beleive there is a link.

That father on the news made me want to shake him..........

Momtezuma Tuatara
22-07-09, 04:46 PM
You know how doctors say that the reason kids come down with autism after mmr is because most autism surfaces at "that age" anyway?

In UK I was told, by a doctor, about a family whose perfectly normal 12 year old, who was showing promise at cricket, because autistic after MMR.