Aids, House of numbers:

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

http://www.naturalnews.com/027631_AIDS_House_of_Numbers.html

NaturalNews) When Brent Leung started showcasing his groundbreaking new documentary film about AIDS, "House of Numbers" (www.HouseOfNumbers.com (http://www.houseofnumbers.com/)), he had no way to comprehend the wave of defamatory attacks that would be unleashed against him. Promoters of conventional AIDS theories (with all their vaccines and pharmaceuticals) have gone on a rampage against Leung, calling him an "AIDS denialist" -- with an obvious invocation of the similar-sounding "Holocaust denialist" phrase.

The implication, of course, is that if you deny any part of conventional AIDS theories, you're as bad as a Nazi war criminal. It's a curious comparison, especially given that the origins of the modern pharmaceutical industry are found precisely in the Nazi regime where pharmaceutical scientists routinely conducted medical experiments on Jewish prisoners. As a fascinating matter of historical fact, the Chairman of Bayer in the 1950's (yes, the same Bayer that makes Bayer Aspirin) was Dr. Fritz ter Meer, a convicted war criminal, who after committing crimes against humanity was sentenced to seven years in prison at the Nuremberg war trials.

The pharmaceutical industry operating today is largely a cabal of unindicted criminals who are guilty of crimes against humanity, and one of their favorite methods of multiplying their profits is to push a disease, then sell a vaccine they claim "treats" the disease. It's the same old scam, whether we're talking about cervical cancer, swine flu or even AIDS.

Getting back to Brent Leung and his film House of Numbers, when the AIDS-pharma promoters saw his film, they knew they had to attack the messenger and try to discredit him as quickly as possible. So they claimed Leung quoted the scientists in the film out of context, thereby distorting what they were saying. In particular, Leung was attacked for his interview with Dr. Luc Montagnier, the Nobel Prize-winning co-discoverer of the AIDS virus, who explained to Leung during the interview that AIDS can be overcome (cured) with nutrition, and that the vaccine approach is entirely overblown.

Such an idea, of course, spells financial doom for drug companies and their cohorts, all of whom profit from the oft-repeated myth that "AIDS has no cure" and that only drugs can treat AIDS. So the critics went after Leung for daring to include Montagnier's words in his documentary. One critic in particular, Jeanne Bergman from an "AIDS truth" website, claimed that Leung "sucker punched" Montagnier.

She also claimed Leung quoted Montagnier out of context and blamed him for asking "leading questions" by saying, "Montagnier does not spontaneously say in the film that a healthy diet will clear the virus. Leung asked leading questions and then presented a fragment of conversation out of context."

As you'll soon see, Jeanne Bergman has no clue what she's talking about. But that's actually par for the course when it comes to the AIDS industry.


The raw interview with Luc Montagnier - revealed!

To help provide clarity to this issue, NaturalNews spoke with House of Numbers filmmaker Brent Leung who agreed to provide us with exclusive, un-cut footage of the conversation with Luc Montagnier, complete with subtitles.

You can now view this exclusive, revealing footage on YouTube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQoN... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQoNW7lOnT4)

NaturalNews transcribed this un-cut conversation and below, we've reprinted the words exchanged between Brent Leung and Dr. Luc Montagnier. Here, you'll see that, in fact, Brent Leung did not quote Montagnier out of context, and that Montagnier makes his position crystal clear on points such as how nutrition may help reverse an AIDS infection.

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[ema-adama]

I'm still trying to get my head around this. I was right there with the best of them who poo pooed Thabo Mbeki for saying nutrition could prevent aids. I was so sure of myself, and now I just do not know

[Seaweed]

Is there a transcript of this anywhere? I don't have sound on my puter.

[Wonder-Full]

Seaweed, the youtube has subtitles of the interview.

[Seaweed]

That was interesting. The bit my logical brain has difficulty with is if you can cure AIDs nutritionally, then why has no one in the more affluent countries cured themselves?

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

That was interesting. The bit my logical brain has difficulty with is if you can cure AIDs nutritionally, then why has no one in the more affluent countries cured themselves?

But they have. Large numbers actually. Why do you not know that? :p

there's plenty been written about it.

[Seaweed]

Probably coz I have not really read much about it as I do not know anyone with HIV so it is not a subject I come into contact with alot.

[magical1]

It's interesting... in Mexico they are still allowed to make claims about food and supplements helping specific diseases. I got a coconut oil that I don't normally get and noticed it has on the back. Product of Mexico.

"clincal Studies have shown that lauric acid strengthens the immune system and reduces viral counts in HIV and HEPC patients"

The problem is Seaweed there is no money to be made in curing disease nutritionally. It also takes an exceptional patient to take care of themselves to the extent that it would take. Most people like to hand the responsibilty to Doctors and drugs. This is a multi trillion dollar industry. The few that don't you will see if you look for them.

You will also probably find that the "long survivors" who have high profiles like Magic Johnson are on the cocktail of drugs sure but probably also have amazing diets to support this... then I would beg to ask is it the drugs or the nutrition that is working? I'm only guessing here naturally.

[Seaweed]

I also remember that woman who was on the cover of mothering when she was pg who refused to take the drugs. I am sure her daughter died when she was 4 of what was reported to be AIDs related illnesses. As I said, I don't know much about AIDs, but that there is a better way to go about things would not surprise me at all. I have read a transcript of a discovery channel interview with Edward Hooper ( I think?) who wrote the River about his theory on the origins of AIDs which was fascinating. I so need another 12 hours in each day to study all I would like to!

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Seaweed, please don't think I'm getting at you, but it's interesting to me, that even though you'd not read very much about it, you assumed that no-one had healed themselves.

perhaps we need to do a thread on a fundemental human failing, which is one that I'm finding really difficult.

Most provaccine parents presume they know all there is to know, and don't read anything against vaccines, firstly because they don't know it's there, and second, because they assume that because they don't know it's there, the reason must be becuase it's not there.

After all, what intelligent people wouldn't know that vaccines have a down side?

The more I know, the more I realise that I don't know. But like you, I occasionally get trapped by my own brain. :D

[MinorityView]

We need a willingness to be surprised?

What I find tricky, generally, is figuring out how to distinguish between crazy people spreading nonsense, and the valuable alternative information which is pushed out of sight. Sometimes it is obvious and sometimes it is very hard to sort out.

[Seaweed]

Seaweed, please don't think I'm getting at you, but it's interesting to me, that even though you'd not read very much about it, you assumed that no-one had healed themselves
It's OK. I did not assume you were getting at me. I also did not assume no one had healed themselves. The joys of the written word :) I meant what I wrote in purely in a devil's advocate sort of way as we do need to question everything. As I said before, it is not a subject I come across too much so from the info presented, I would have expected evidence as all we really had was an expert saying something.


After all, what intelligent people wouldn't know that vaccines have a down side?
Ah yes but they think they are very very rare & often only work on the real obvious ones. Things like the subtle nuances of all that indecent tweaking of the developing immune system go totally over the top of their heads.


What I find tricky, generally, is figuring out how to distinguish between crazy people spreading nonsense, and the valuable alternative information which is pushed out of sight. Sometimes it is obvious and sometimes it is very hard to sort out. ITA with this. What I try to do is look at stuff from a pure logic point of view to begin with. As in does what they are saying make sense. If I had to debate it, would there be holes? What key pieces of info could be missing? If I take the opposing side to my gut & my heart, would I be able to argue it convincingly with the info presented ? Truly some days I feel like my head will explode. I also have a list of the 100 things I wish I did not know ;)

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Only 100? You're far more resilient than I am then :p

[Seaweed]

Nah just younger :p