Gardasil 101 (N.Z.)

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Information from a New Zealand perspective:

This is a tutorial (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/resources/gardasil)on Gardasil, on my own website, which I won't copy here, to conserve bandwidth. Later we could transfer important stuff here.

I have put this at the top, because you will not learn the really important information you need to know, by going to the vaccine manufacturers' websites, or the Ministry of Health's websites. You will only learn there, what they want you to think you need to know.

In order to understand the significance of what you are not told, you need to know what you are told :D.



This is the New Zealand Medsafe datasheet (http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/Datasheet/g/Gardasilinj.htm) on Gardasil.

The New Zealand Immunisation Handbook chapter on Gardasil (http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagesmh/4617/$File/2006-19newvaccines.pdf) (new Vaccines).

This is the New Zealand brochure (http://www.cervicalcancervaccine.govt.nz/resources/join_the_fight_brochure.pdf) and non factsheet (http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagesmh/7946/$File/HPV_Fact+Sheet+180808.pdf) for Gardasil.


This is the New Zealand Ministry of Health (http://www.cervicalcancervaccine.govt.nz/) Website on Gardasil, and one of their "Dear Doctor" (http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagesmh/7946/$File/letter-to-primary-care-aug08.pdf)letters saying that side effects are coincidental. this is an important letter for NZ parents to read, because it's sets out a lot more than that. If it disappears, we will put a copy up here.

The Australian company CSL has put up its own New Zealand website called Your Best Shot (http://www.yourbestshot.co.nz/) which ironically says,
Do not, or do not let your child have the vaccine if you or your child had an allergy to GARDASIL or any of the ingredients. And you of course, will know all that information before hand, right?

The New Zealand MOH put out a flipchart (http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagesmh/7946/$File/HPV_Flip+Chart+180808.pdf) for doctors, which essentially mirrors their own non-information website.

Another New Zealand site is this one (http://www.hpv.org.nz/) which is obviously pro-Gardasil, as evidenced by the list of who is on the Advisory Board (http://www.hpv.org.nz/board.htm). This is an extract from their project statement (http://www.hpv.org.nz/about_hpvproject.htm).


The HPV Project is about support and education.




Our objectives are straight forward:

To provide up-to-date information and non judgmental support to people with genital warts.
To provide health and medical professionals with user-friendly educational material that will assist with the diagnosis, treatment and management of genital warts.
To educate the public about the prevalence, transmission and management of genital HPV thereby reducing the stigma and fear associated with this common infection.


This is Dr Nikki Turner's provaccine Immunisation Advisory Centre page (http://www.immune.org.nz/default.asp?t=914)on Gardasil. Note the link to the AUT peer group pressure (http://www.oneforthegirls.org.nz/) site on Gardasil put together by students in Auckland AUT, which probably indicates that IMAC coached the girls who did the site.

Some of the stuff you need to know, which the Medical profession doesn't tell you.

This document (http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/hpv_event_transcript.pdf)which is a speech by someone who knows a lot about HP viruses, raises some serious questions about the overal validity of the use of any HPV Vaccines.

Make sure you read this Finnish study (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/498114) showing HPV viruses in babies and children.

Gardasil is implicated in provoking pancreatitis (http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/189_03_040808/letters_040808_fm-1.html), though Merck came out with a statement (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cancer-jab-linked-to-pancreas-disease/2008/08/16/1218307309515.html) denying that. A discussion on that is here (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=25896&A=SearchResult&SearchID=372265&ObjectID=25896&ObjectType=55).

Websites like this one (http://www.medications.com/se/gardasil)are popping up everywhere, discussing all the side effects which the medical profession deny are related to either Gardasil, or Cervarix.

There is a yahoo group here (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lets_talk_about_gardasil/) and here (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/gardasilwatch) for people affected by Gardasil

Cervarix in UK has just thrown up the first serious reaction (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5337885.ece), which is reported not to be from the vaccine.

Some other reading:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/359/8/821 (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/359/8/821)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/8/861 (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/8/861)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/health/21vaccine.html?_r=1&oref=slogin (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/health/21vaccine.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)
(http://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/2008/JWReportFDAhpvVaccineRecords.pdfhttp://www.americanprogress.org/kf/hpv_event_transcript.pdf)http://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/2008/JWReportFDAhpvVaccineRecords.pdf (http://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/2008/JWReportFDAhpvVaccineRecords.pdf)

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This is just a start, but will give you the right terms and words to then go and do your own searches on google and pubmed, and find out all the rest of the information that the medical profession is happy for you not to know.

[Moya]

Anyone seen this? I haven't read it yet.

CNS demyelination and quadrivalent HPV vaccination.

Mult Scler. (javascript:AL_get(this, 'jour', 'Mult Scler.');) 2008 Sep 19. [Epub ahead of print]

Sutton I (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Sutton%20I%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Lahoria R (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Lahoria%20R%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Tan I (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Tan%20I%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Clouston P (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Clouston%20P%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus), Barnett M (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Barnett%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus).

Department of Neurology, St Vincent's Hospital, Darlinghurst, New South Wales, Australia; The Brain and Mind Research Institute, The University of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

Vaccination is generally considered safe in patients with multiple sclerosis (MS). We report five patients who presented with multifocal or atypical demyelinating syndromes within 21 days of immunization with the quadrivalent human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil((R)). Although the target population for vaccination, young females, has an inherently high risk for MS, the temporal association with demyelinating events in these cases may be explained by the potent immuno-stimulatory properties of HPV virus-like particles which comprise the vaccine. A prospective case-control study of patients with MS or clinically isolated demyelinating syndromes receiving the Gardasil((R)) vaccine may provide relevant safety data in this population.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

There is some talk about Gardasil causing miscarriages in the trials etc... given that it contains L-histidine do you think that the result is damage to the foetus? Here is the MSDS (material safety data sheet) Section 11: Toxicological Information, Special Remarks on Chronic Effects on Humans (http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-L_Histidine-9927189): Passes through the placental barrier in humans.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Here's another New Zealand site (http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?m=post&l=1&t=0&id=28314) questioning Gardasil.

[Cybertiger]

Cervarix in UK has just thrown up the first serious reaction (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5337885.ece), which is reported not to be from the vaccine.


This is a curious story from Liverpool, reported curiously,

http://www.osadvertiser.co.uk/news/ormskirk-news/2008/12/04/maghull-schoolgirl-paralysed-after-mystery-illness-80904-22406589/

The medics were reported thus,

"Dr Andrew Curran, consultant paediatric neurologist at Alder Hey, said: “Ashleigh is at present undergoing detailed and complex investigations.
“She is receiving a full input from all appropriate clinical staff, including a detailed rehabilitation programme to support her recovery.
“Ashleigh’s problems are not related to Noonan’s syndrome and I can say with complete certainty she is demonstrating no pathological reaction to her vaccination.”"

Dr Curran gives the impression that he does not know what is wrong with the girl but he is absolutely confident that whatever it is it has nothing to do with the vaccine. I despair! :p

[Spy]

Do you also find it fascinating how medics can be dead sure about what it is NOT even though they don't have a clue as to what it IS? :giggle:

[Moya]

Do you also find it fascinating how medics can be dead sure about what it is NOT even though they don't have a clue as to what it IS? :giggle:

Yeah, exactly. Technically and theoretically we can't rule out that this was caused by invisible unicorns poking and prodding the girl - but for certain the vaccine is not in any way the cause. By definition you can't rule out the vaccine. So what does it mean that they do rule out the vaccine? To me it means they have no credibility whatsoever going forward.

There are even proven mechanisms how vaccination could cause this. It doesn't necessarily need to be the ingredients of the vaccine, the injection itself has proven to be paralyzing. Sometimes in combination with the ingredients, but sometimes all on its own. I remember that Wyatt paper that detailed the early 20th century efforts to give injections for some disease and they noticed that paralysis followed them from village to village. Turns out the people were asymptomatically infected with a virus that only caused paralysis when the people were injected with needles. It allowed the virus to enter the peripheral nerves and travel through retrograde axonal transport into the brain resulting in paralysis. Had nothing to do with what was in the vaccine (it was actually syphilis medication), but was because of the injection itself.

And adding on to the Wyatt papers are all those papers on vaccine-associated polio that detail the mechanism of exactly how vaccine injections cause paralysis. It's a general mechanism.

The fact that this proof has been out there in the published scientific literature for many years exposes the ignorance of anyone who could declare that this girl's paralysis could be both unknown and definitely not because of the vaccine. It just destroys the person's credibility.

[deesalie]

:bangshead::bangshead::bangshead:

[Mommy0406]

:bangshead::bangshead::bangshead:

I was looking for a yeah that smilie, but didn't see it so I'll just type it.

How the heck can they look at a reaction that starts within 30 mins of vaccination and not connect the dots. :disbelief: Add to that that the initial diagnosis mentioned it as a vaccine reaction, but now all the sudden they're saying it's not related. :eyeroll:

It really seriously bothers me that dr.'s are so willing to write off these young previously healthy girls and assume that they would've had the same thing happen at the same time anyways even if they hadn't of gotten the vaccine. Somehow, I just don't buy it. :mad:

[Cybertiger]

There has been a bit of antipodean debate in the BMJ about sensitivity reactions to the HPV vaccine. Our old friend Viera Schiebner can be seen in combative mood in the commentary,

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/337/dec02_2/a2642

PS. The antipodean research paper that is commented on is not behind the usual BMJ closed subscription door.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/337/dec02_2/a2642

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Marian's reply was equal to the task :D

Viera has a point though, in that with the DPT, often the worst "anaphylactic" type reactions are seen after the third or the fourth shot. It's not yet known what we will see with Gardasil.