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Momtezuma Tuatara
02-02-09, 12:09 PM
Call for obese children to be taken into care (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/call-for-obese-kids-to-be-taken-into-care/2009/02/01/1233423045494.html)

Louise Hall Health Reporter
February 2, 2009



SEVERELY obese children should be notified to child protection authorities, and even taken into care, if their parents are unwilling or unable to help them lose weight, experts have argued.

The continuing failure of parents to ensure treatment for their obese child could be considered medical neglect when the child is suffering, or is at high risk of suffering, associated severe health problems.

Clinicians already have a legal requirement to contact welfare authorities when parents fail to follow medical advice in the treatment of other illnesses, such as parents who reject medication for a HIV-infected child, or who refuse a life-saving blood transfusion for a child on religious grounds.

Writing in the Medical Journal of Australia, doctors at the Children's Hospital at Westmead say the growing prevalence of severe obesity is leaving many health workers unsure if they should notify child protection workers when parents fail to follow medical advice.

"We argue that in an extreme case, the notification of child protection services may be an appropriate professional response," pediatric obesity experts Dr Shirley Alexander and Professor Louise Baur wrote.

Dr Alexander said the multidisciplinary team of specialists at the Children's Hospital at Westmead who look after cases of extreme obesity had decided to notify the NSW Department of Community Services if parents were unwilling or unable to co-operate with medical advice.

"The child may have insulin resistance and you've put them on medication to help prevent diabetes and the parents disagree with giving their child medication, or you show them evidence that children are at a higher rate of obesity if they have a TV in their bedroom, but the parent refuses to take the TV away," Dr Alexander said.

The article, published yesterday, described the case of a four-year-old girl, Jade, who was 110 cm tall and weighed 40 kilograms.

She had associated health problems including a fatty liver, hyperinsulinaemia and obstructive sleep apnoea.

Her separated parents let her watch up to six hours of TV every day, allowed her eat whatever she wanted and regularly failed to turn up for appointments with the hospital's dietitians and other health professionals.
After 12 months her weight had increased and Jade had become hypertensive (high blood pressure) and violent.

The hospital notified DOCS and Jade was admitted to hospital, where with a program of daily physical activity and a healthy diet, she lost three kilograms in two weeks.

After her discharge, the authorities insisted on supervised visits with her father and community health workers visited the mother to help her learn to buy and cook healthy food, and Jade lost another dress size.

Dr Alexander said while placing children in care was a sensitive issue, notifying child protection workers may lead to other forms of intervention, such as financial help to buy healthy food, or the drawing up of "responsibility contracts".

So what is legitimate "big brother" and what is not?

Will a "responsibility contract" enforce breastfeeding, natural birth, decent nutrition?

Will it also enforce compulsory vaccination?

My comment to the SMH was:


They want to enforce a "responsibility contract" on parents?

So, will they enforce having a natural birth, forced breastfeeding (What's a responsible length of time to breastfeed? Two months? Two years?)

Daily fridge inspection to ensure no junk food; bedtime at 7.00 p.m; no TV in the house; computer only to be used for homework; correct shoes; the "right" clothes....

Gotta use the approved sunscreen, the right hat, walk with feet pointed in the right direction to protect the spine...???

How about enforcing a "responsibility contract" on food manufacturers so that no junk food is available?

How about enforcing a "responsibility contract" on everyone so that rations are handed out which you claim daily, so that no-one can overeat?

Where does this "animal farm" tell me how to think, sort of nanny state PC behaviour finish?

Spy
02-02-09, 12:55 PM
Last comment priceless:


Yeah, why not? While we're at it, let's take away ugly kids too? :LMAO:

Seriously. As if. :giggle: :rolleyes:

Serephina
02-02-09, 01:02 PM
This is really worrying. While obviously I'm all for parents providing their children with healthy food (regardless of whether the child is obese or not) and agree that it's not appropriate for a 4 year old to have a tv in their bedroom, where does it end? Are parents who refuse vaccinations or antibiotics going to have their children removed? Scary stuff.

MinorityView
02-02-09, 01:03 PM
Wait a second. Parental neglect makes kids ugly?

I felt sorry for the girl in the story though. Six hours of TV per day?

Momtezuma Tuatara
02-02-09, 02:19 PM
Wait a second. Parental neglect makes kids ugly?

At the risk of raising bile, yes. A mother's nutrition hugely impacts on a child's facial structure and feature balance.

While I don't agree with everything Hal Huggins says in his Book "Why Raise Ugly Kids (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Raise-Ugly-Kids-Happiness/dp/0870005073)?" he's right about a lot of it.

I think every parent should read this, because at the very least, by the end of it, what he says should clarify how they feel about what they know, and what they are going to do, not do, and hopefully, why.

GreenGully
02-02-09, 03:54 PM
My four year old has a tv in our bedroom (and has been known to watch a whole 6 hours of it in one day shock horror) and eats what he wants, when he wants (within a healthy selection made available to him). I don't get how that makes a child obese? Mine sure isn't.

Momtezuma Tuatara
02-02-09, 04:14 PM
I would think that this girl also has separation issues, is probably fed the wrong sort of food, and never goes outside to play...

I was saying to my husband that if we put up photos of our children, who ate like horses, must have run 20 kms a day, with the amount of playing they did, and looked like stick insects, some "Aunt Maud" would be bound to accuse us of having them on a starvation diet....

Spy
02-02-09, 05:29 PM
My four year old has a tv in our bedroom (and has been known to watch a whole 6 hours of it in one day shock horror) and eats what he wants, when he wants (within a healthy selection made available to him). I don't get how that makes a child obese? Mine sure isn't.

That's exactly the point - they DON'T KNOW YET exactly what it is that makes children obese (which is obvious from what they are trying to do about it) but ALREADY are prepared to punish both kids and parents.

What about kids that eat Junk Only and watch TV non-stop who are NOT [YET] OBESE? Why targeting the fat ones, are they just easier to spot?

MinorityView
02-02-09, 11:47 PM
Well, yes, poor diet and stuff can make people look bad, so I guess it could affect the way children look. I'm not biased, but my grandchildren are both gorgeous. Fifth generation alternative medicine and healthy diets, lots of outside play, no TV at all, plenty of sleep. Of course, having really good looking kids has its downside. My daughter was deeply depressed by the number of people who compared her first, (blond, blue-eyed, fair-complected) to the GERBER BABY! The horror!

Barefoot
03-02-09, 04:25 AM
Fear not, a fat vaccine could well be on its way. Any parent giving this jab to a child will no doubt be seen as being responsible.
http://www.pleasantmorningbuzz.com/cgi-bin/buzz.pl?buzz=1020051

What gets me is the the great corporate pied piper industrial complex predators who are bed with the establishment controllers and get paid at both ends while the flock loses more and liberty and rights.

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-02-09, 12:05 PM
Yeah, the obesity vaccine has been touted for some time. I've had a file on it, for the last 10 years. It was touted in the same breath as a vaccine against diabetes.