What does ownership mean to you?

[Mommy0406]

I figure in a forum about ownership options, it's helpful for us each to define what ownership means to us. The broad term of ownership is probably pretty universal, but I think there are more subtleties to it and exploring the different ways we own our decisions or actions might make one consider a different aspect. :)

Does it mean standing behind a decision and never backing down once you own the original decision?

Can you change your mind on something mid point and still own both decisions?

Do you think you own decisions that are made simply by non-action?

At what point do you feel you own your decision and do you try to own every decision you make?

How much conscious thought do you put in to each decision to see if it "fits" or "feels right" for you and your family?


Feel free to add your own questions. I'll share my thoughts a little later on. :D

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Does it mean standing behind a decision and never backing down once you own the original decision? That would depend what the issues are. If you are meaning vaccinations, because of the reasons I've formulated for not vaccinating myself, or my children, then yes, because those reasons apply to all vaccines.

When it comes to other things, then ownership of choice means looking at all available information in the circumstances of the 'event', and discussions with all involved, and either making that decision for a child, or allowing the child to own their own decision. If they own the decision they also own the outcome in more ways than one. With choice comes responsibility. With cause comes effect, and if the effect is an undesired one, the chooser is the one who has to live with that result.


Can you change your mind on something mid point and still own both decisions?Only if your default position is not having done something. If you've done it, then both doors are closed.

If you've not vaccinated, say, then yes, because sometimes not all facts are known at the time, and not all risks are known. So whereas you might not want a plague vaccine just because you are going to India, if Plague came to you, and everyone else in the town had it, and the town was ring-fenced and you couldn't get out, then you have a choice. Take your chances, live or die, and take the vaccine and still live or die. But you still have a choice.


Do you think you own decisions that are made simply by non-action?No. Though some might say that they would own them if they "fell" the right way, and say, "Oh, I didn't know/understand/realise!' if it turned to custard.


At what point do you feel you own your decisionI own the decision when I've read everything I can find relating to the topic; the situation/disease, possible alternative/treatments/etc, the ramifications of all options, and analysed that in relation to my own personal health, and family history,... and then made a choice.


and do you try to own every decision you make? Within the bounds of what I can control i.e. my health, drugs, vaccines and lifestyle, yes.

(when it comes to voting, no. If voting changed anything, there would be a law against it. :p )



How much conscious thought do you put in to each decision to see if it "fits" or "feels right" for you and your family?A lot. And also a lot of prayer as well.

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These questions may need a clarifying explanation depending on the answer.

What impact does the pressure from your friends have on you,?

None. they've sat back and watched and realised that what we did worked.


What impact does the pressure from your family have on you?

None. They went their way, and did their own thing.



What impact does the pressure from the medical profession have on you?

A lot. If they pressure me, then I ask a long list of questions, and when they get uncomfortable to the point where they can't answer the questions, I ask them why they are pressuring me, when they don't have the answers to my logical questions.

The key outcome of medical pressure on me has been that if the meeting with them is known in advance, I go well prepared with relevant medical literature hidden, and if they start coming up with stuff that's incorrect, I start putting medical articles in front of them.

Do you volunteer information on your choices to other people?

No, not until, or unless they start attempting to criticise me for not being a clone of themselves. Then I start asking them questions, and usually leave it at that. If anyone is then brave enough to ask me why, and not for the reasons of starting a fight, then I might volunteer to share information.

[Serephina]

To me ownership is about taking complete responsibility for my own decisions. For example when I hear people talking about vaxxing because their doctor told them to I don't feel that that is owning the decision. They are handing the responsibility for that decision over to the Dr. Likewise I have heard others say that they stopped vaxxing because their friend/chiropractor/naturopath etc. told them it was harmful without doing any research of their own. To me that's just as silly.


Does it mean standing behind a decision and never backing down once you own the original decision?

Not necessarily, I would always be willing to reassess my stance on issues if new evidence was presented or my circumstances changed.


Can you change your mind on something mid point and still own both decisions?

I'm not sure. Can I come back and change my mind later? :giggle:


Do you think you own decisions that are made simply by non-action?

If the non-action is to avoid making a decision, or simply because someone can't be bothered taking action, then no. However if I have considered all options and decided that the best course of action is to do nothing and I take full responsibility for that decision then yes.


At what point do you feel you own your decision and do you try to own every decision you make?

When I feel comfortable with the reasoning and evidence behind my decision and feel I can deal with the possible consequences of that decision.

I don't try to own every decision I make because that would just be too time consuming! Just the important ones, stuff like "what am I going to have for breakfast this morning?" is not worthy of that much time and consideration.


How much conscious thought do you put in to each decision to see if it "fits" or "feels right" for you and your family?

For the things that are really important I can spend months reading, researching, weighing different opinions. My intuition or "gut feeling" will always give me a clear indication of what the best decision will be but I also like to have physical evidence to back that up.

[Lioness]

Ownership means to me that we are active and proactive, aware and conscience of the every choice and desicion we make. Ownership is the realisation that we alone have the power and right to make choices in our lives.

Like Hilary said with choice comes responsibility. When we own the choice we then own the consequence. When we own the concequence we claim ownership and understanding that we can then make a different choice if the consequence is not what we liked.

i think because we all are are ultimately responsible for our lives and how we choose to live those lives, that when we take no action that is actualy a choice we make whether we be aware of it or not.


I put all my conscience thought in choices i make for the family. That conscience will include my feelings, knowledge, past experiences, the alternatives, the consequences, and a then will bounce all that back through prayers and guidance. The final choice usually ends up being the one that is constantly in my thoughts and i keep going back to it if i think of another way.